Posts by Lost in the fog

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How do you feel about the elders?

by Lost in the fog in

oh dear, i recently made a comment about an elder being dogmatic.

and one of his best buddies sent me a wt article to help me realign my mind or something.

this is where reality separates from fantasy and fiction.

Lost in the fog

Oh dear, I recently made a comment about an elder being dogmatic. And one of his best buddies sent me a WT article to help me realign my mind or something.

This is where reality separates from fantasy and fiction. This elder believes that just because it is there in print then it automatically must be true of him and his best friend personally. How wonderful, loving and caring they all are, as they interfere in your life and spy on your dealings, which is as far removed from Christ's example as possible.

Quote :

"The elders in the Christian congregation are under obligation to learn to be like Christ. Peter gave the older men, or elders, this exhortation: “Shepherd the flock of God in your care, not under compulsion, but willingly; neither for love of dishonest gain, but eagerly; neither as lording it over those who are God’s inheritance, but becoming examples to the flock.” (1 Pet. 5:1-3) Christian elders are not to be dictatorial, domineering, arbitrary, or harsh. Imitating Christ’s example, they endeavor to be loving, considerate, humble, and kind in their dealings with the sheep entrusted to their care."

W10, 5/15.

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Russia Seizes JW Property.

by Lost in the fog in

http://tass.com/world/1002773 .

Lost in the fog

http://tass.com/world/1002773

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Abuse by JW in the Netherlands: 276 victems registred in Q1, 2018

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

https://www.metronieuws.nl/nieuws/binnenland/2018/05/meldingen-misbruik-bij-jehovahs-getuigen-opgelopen.

276 victems registred now in q1 2018, abused by jw's in the netherlands.. state secretary says branche has to speak with victem group official.. g..

Lost in the fog

https://reclaimedvoices.org/

I see that they sent an open letter to the Governing Body this week.

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Recognition. A Joke.

by Lost in the fog in

protestants do not recognise or acknowledge the pope.

roman catholics do not recognise or acknowledge protestantism.

jehovah’s witness elders do not recognise or acknowledge each other when they bump into one another buying bottles of spirits at the off-licence on the way home from the meeting.

Lost in the fog

Protestants do not recognise or acknowledge the Pope.

Roman Catholics do not recognise or acknowledge protestantism.

Jehovah’s Witness elders do not recognise or acknowledge each other when they bump into one another buying bottles of spirits at the off-licence on the way home from the meeting. 😉😊

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Craziest Speculations You’ve heard about the end and paradise

by Addison0998 in

we’ve all heard them all our life.

my two biggest stupidest ones i think are, “ we can really tell the end is almost here with the way people drive on the highway.” and a girl who said she wants to hurry up and marry her boyfriend because she’s scared if the end comes before their married, she’ll have to wait 1000 years to marry him.

oh and also a poor old lady saying that she hopes jehovah wipes away the memory of her disfellowshipped sons that he will have to destroy.

Lost in the fog

When famous gay rock stars commit suicide, and we hear "he'll be one of ours in the New World, Jehovah will give him a chance to learn the truth."

Why?

Oh and death severs the marriage tie. So how do I welcome back my dead loved parents since they will simply be 2 single people. I won't be part of their family, and then their ancestors won't be. Etc, etc.

And then we'll get to colonise all the other planets in the universe.

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"The last DAYS?"

by eyeuse2badub in

i was asked last sunday, after a meeting that i attended with my wife, by a good friend if i believed that these were indeed the "last days".

what prompted his question was the public talk given by a young man that i have known since he was 7 years old and is now an elder at 30.. the talk made mention several times that we are 'definitely' living in the "last days".

i assume that the expression "last days" was prominent in the outline.. i hope that he way i answered my friend's question jump started his thinking.

Lost in the fog

Personally I used to be extremely embarrassed showing householders the verse in Psalms "and just a little while longer and the wicked one will be no more," because 9 times out of 10 I was then asked by the householder "and that was written when? So what do you mean by 'a little while'?"

Are we there yet? Are we there yet?

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Clarification needed re shunning policy

by UnshackleTheChains in

i am in the process of writing to parliament about the practice of shunning by jehovah's witnesses.

what i need to clarify if the practice is 'specifically' mentioned in any of the books used for bible study/ recruitment leading up to baptism?.

i would be grateful if anyone could clarify this in case i get my facts wrong when writing my letter..

Lost in the fog

Polish Clarinet,

Regarding political involvement, in particular Voting, if the WT in 1999 said it was a conscience matter - they appear to have changed their minds again since. Here is the quote from "God's Love" p214:

Voting in political elections.

True Christians respect the right of others to vote. They do not campaign against elections, and they cooperate with elected authorities. However, they remain resolutely neutral with regard to the political affairs of the nations. (Matthew 22:21; 1 Peter 3:16) What should a Christian do in lands where voting is compulsory or in a situation where feelings run high against those who do not go to the voting booth? Remembering that Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego went as far as the plain of Dura, a Christian, under similar circumstances, may decide to go to the booth if his conscience permits. However, he will take care not to violate his neutrality."

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JW covering child abuse in UK

by Alex Bogdanov in

jw
friends

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/25/jehovahs-witnesses-accused-of-silencing-victims-of-child-abuse-uk.

a year ago the government found that jws from manchester were involved in a child abuse, but the local congregation did everything to hide it and be in the way of the police investigation.

this situation is getting worse now.

Lost in the fog

In England and Wales, people were asked to report their experiences @

https://www.iicsa.org.uk/victims-and-survivors/how-share-your-experience

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Bible verses interpreted and twisted by WT to suit their agenda and purpose.

by EverApostate in

there are a whole bunch of bible verses that the wt interprets in its own way to:.

suit their agenda.. to make bible verses less silly/weird/bizarre.

to make god appear righteous, kind and justified.. to make the bible appear more practical and applicable for modern times.. have given a few here.

Lost in the fog

Jesus said “To the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.”—MATT. 25:40.

WT denies that this means all who are part of the Christian community but refers instead ONLY to the remaining ones of Christ’s spirit-anointed brothers on earth.

So the Watchtower Study magazine of March 2015 concluded that as a result.... (Quote:) "The growing number of prospective sheep count it a privilege to support Christ’s brothers not only in the preaching work but also in other practical ways. For example, they give financial contributions and help to build Kingdom Halls, Assembly Halls, and branch facilities, and they loyally obey those appointed by “the faithful and discreet slave” to take the lead."

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The older I get the more angry I become!

by Sour Grapes in

i did some self-reflection today trying to determine why, with every passing day, i become angrier against the watchtower company.

i am in my 70's and my health is failing.

at first, i thought it was because "worldly" people couldn't care less about jdubs and the little world they live in even though the witlesses think that the earth revolves around them and their desert god who was originally worshipped by the cainites.

Lost in the fog

Hi Sour Grapes and Others.

I am in the process of fading and I do find it difficult not to be angry at all of the time I have wasted. I am almost 60 and in very poor health, without the safety net of a lifetime of savings.

I have to curtail my anger otherwise I would take it out on my wife who is largely PIMI although some things do niggle her.

But along with the anger at the new organisation I also feel a void and an emptiness as I am a spiritual person inside but for now am unsure in which direction to turn. Sometimes I get angry at myself for not catching on to TTATT sooner. But that only leads me to anxiety and depression, which I have had therapy for in the past.

I just feel a great sadness reading through all your posts, and whilst I see that I am not alone in my feelings, I struggle with channelling my feelings in a positive way to improve my mood.

Love to you all.